Does XP needed per skillpoint ever plateau? - Guild Wars Forums

EinValentine · May 23, 2005, 12:16 AM // 00:16

As you go up in levels the amount of XP required to reach the next level increases (this bit is obvious, I know). But once you reach level 20 each time you gain a skillpoint the XP required to gain the next point continues to increase.

I'm well over 20k required XP to gain my next skillpoint and have seen no signs of it leveling off. If it continues to climb then the number of skillpoints it is possible to gain on any single character is effectively soft-capped and the dream of having all skills available to a single character (my original long term goal) becomes either much more difficult or effectively impossible, depending on when the XP required becomes functially prohibitive.

Has anyone done the math on this or have any light to shed? I did do a search for "experience" but all that got me was tons of posts where people argued about level caps. Waste of my time.

Anyway I'm curious because if XP required per skillpoint doesn't level off at a reasonable quantity I shall simply finish off all the skills in my characters main tree and move on.

egads · May 23, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

I came across what you are looking for a couple of days ago.

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With these, make sure you don't consider skill points you get from quests/missions. Those don't apply here.

exp to next skill point = 1400 + 600x
where x is the number of the next skill point you'll earn through experience
ex. To get your 60th skill point, you'll need to gain 1400 + 600*60 = 37400 experience after getting enough exp to earn your 59th skill point.

total exp = 300xx + 1100x - 1400
where x is the number of the next skill point you'll earn through experience
When you start to work towards earning your 60th skill point, you'd have already earned 300*60*60 +1100*60 - 1400 = 1,144,600 experience

number of skill points you have earned through experience = (-55 + sqrt(7225 + 3*your total exp)) / 30 - 1

no. of the next skill point you'll earn, Total amount of Exp, Exp to earn the next skill point
1 0,000 2000
2 2,000 2600
3 4,600 3200
4 7,800 3800
5 11,600 4400
6 16,000 5000
7 21,000 5600
8 26,600 6200
9 32,800 6800
10 39,600 7400
11 47,000 8000
12 55,000 8600
13 63,600 9200
14 72,800 9800
15 82,600 10400
16 93,000 11000
17 104,000 11600
18 115,600 12200
19 127,800 12800
20 140,600 13400
21 154,000 14000
22 168,000 14600
23 182,600 15200
24 197,800 15800
25 213,600 16400
26 230,000 17000
27 247,000 17600
28 264,600 18200
29 282,800 18800
30 301,600 19400
31 321,000 20000
32 341,000 20600
33 361,600 21200
34 382,800 21800
35 404,600 22400
36 427,000 23000
37 450,000 23600
38 473,600 24200
39 497,800 24800
40 522,600 25400
41 548,000 26000
42 574,000 26600
43 600,600 27200
44 627,800 27800
45 655,600 28400
46 684,000 29000
47 713,000 29600
48 742,600 30200
49 772,800 30800
50 803,600 31400
51 835,000 32000
52 867,000 32600
53 899,600 33200
54 932,800 33800
55 966,600 34400
56 1,001,000 35000
57 1,036,000 35600
58 1,071,600 36200
59 1,107,800 36800
60 1,144,600 37400

70 1,545,600 43400
80 2,006,600 49400
90 2,527,600 55400
100 3,108,600 61400
110 3,749,600 67400
120 4,450,600 73400
130 5,211,600 79400
140 6,032,600 85400
150 6,913,600 91400
160 7,854,600 97400
170 8,855,600 103400
180 9,916,600 109400
190 11,037,600 115400
200 12,218,600 121400
210 13,459,600 127400
220 14,760,600 133400
230 16,121,600 139400
240 17,542,600 145400
250 19,023,600 151400
260 20,564,600 157400
270 22,165,600 163400
280 23,826,600 169400
290 25,547,600 175400
300 27,328,600 181400
310 29,169,600 187400
320 31,070,600 193400
330 33,031,600 199400
340 35,052,600 205400
350 37,133,600 211400
360 39,274,600 217400
370 41,475,600 223400
380 43,736,600 229400
390 46,057,600 235400
400 48,438,600 241400
410 50,879,600 247400
420 53,380,600 253400
430 55,941,600 259400
440 58,562,600 265400
450 61,243,600 271400

In other words, having all skills on a single character would not be easy at all. I'd look into making another character.

EinValentine · May 23, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Thanks Egads.

Well, that is really obnoxious, and may be what loses me as a continuing customer for future Guild Wars products, unless future expansions do something to address this.

Collecting skills is my principle pleasure in the game. With this setup it looks like the only way to really effectively "catch them all" is to make 6 separate characters and delete 2 of them along the way, and even then the only way to access them all at once is with a PvP character I'll likely never use. Not something I'm really interested in doing.

*shrug* Oh well. There are other games. This one was certainly worth the box price, so it's not like I haven't gotten my money's worth already.

Joysze · May 23, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30

This is the calculation from gwonline. After level 20, the xp needed per level is 20*600+12,800. I've read it in a thread with someone confirming that you need 24,800 xp per skill point after level 20, but I couldn't find it again.

I myself have level 3 or 4 more times after level 20, and it didn't take me long. I'll watch my xp levels and report back.

http://www.gwonline.net/page.php?p=137

19 12,200 127,800 20 Health, 15 Attribute Points, 1 Skill Point 460 Health, 155 Attribute Points, 18 Skill Points

20 12,800 140,600 20 Health, 15 Attribute Points, 1 Skill Point 480 Health, 170 Attribute Points, 19 Skill Points

21+ (level - 2)(600) + 2000 (level - 20)(600) + 12800 1 Skill Point 480 Health, 170 Attribute Points, (level - 1) Skill Points

May 23, 2005, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#1
EinValentine Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: A Lovely Suburb	Does XP needed per skillpoint ever plateau? As you go up in levels the amount of XP required to reach the next level increases (this bit is obvious, I know). But once you reach level 20 each time you gain a skillpoint the XP required to gain the next point continues to increase. I'm well over 20k required XP to gain my next skillpoint and have seen no signs of it leveling off. If it continues to climb then the number of skillpoints it is possible to gain on any single character is effectively soft-capped and the dream of having all skills available to a single character (my original long term goal) becomes either much more difficult or effectively impossible, depending on when the XP required becomes functially prohibitive. Has anyone done the math on this or have any light to shed? I did do a search for "experience" but all that got me was tons of posts where people argued about level caps. Waste of my time. Anyway I'm curious because if XP required per skillpoint doesn't level off at a reasonable quantity I shall simply finish off all the skills in my characters main tree and move on.

May 23, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50	#3
EinValentine Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: A Lovely Suburb	Thanks Egads. Well, that is really obnoxious, and may be what loses me as a continuing customer for future Guild Wars products, unless future expansions do something to address this. Collecting skills is my principle pleasure in the game. With this setup it looks like the only way to really effectively "catch them all" is to make 6 separate characters and delete 2 of them along the way, and even then the only way to access them all at once is with a PvP character I'll likely never use. Not something I'm really interested in doing. shrug Oh well. There are other games. This one was certainly worth the box price, so it's not like I haven't gotten my money's worth already.

May 23, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#4
Joysze Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2005	This is the calculation from gwonline. After level 20, the xp needed per level is 20*600+12,800. I've read it in a thread with someone confirming that you need 24,800 xp per skill point after level 20, but I couldn't find it again. I myself have level 3 or 4 more times after level 20, and it didn't take me long. I'll watch my xp levels and report back. http://www.gwonline.net/page.php?p=137 19 12,200 127,800 20 Health, 15 Attribute Points, 1 Skill Point 460 Health, 155 Attribute Points, 18 Skill Points 20 12,800 140,600 20 Health, 15 Attribute Points, 1 Skill Point 480 Health, 170 Attribute Points, 19 Skill Points 21+ (level - 2)(600) + 2000 (level - 20)(600) + 12800 1 Skill Point 480 Health, 170 Attribute Points, (level - 1) Skill Points